HMS_Yowling ([info]hms_yowling) wrote,
@ 2003-08-23 09:32:00
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And now back to Neville
The following is excerpted from Tira Nog's "A Nick in Time," which the curious can find at the SS-Fuh-Q fest (Third Wave). Link is to the warning page. The context: Snape, Hermione, Ron, and Harry are discussing magic potential and wandless magic. Snape points out that the two most powerful students in Harry's year were Harry and Neville.



"I assure you, I'm not. Neville Longbottom had the potential; he was simply terrified of his own powers," Snape said.

"How can you say that? He was . . . ." Looking at the four students across from him, who seemed absorbed in their own conversation, Weasley broke off, the hopeless they all heard remaining unvoiced.

Lowering his voice, Snape said, "He had tremendous raw power. Even completely harmless potions would explode around Mr. Longbottom. It's my understanding that he had similar results in every one of his classes. He could rarely produce the desired result, but his mistakes were always spectacular."

"He could be right," Potter thoughtfully added, "Remember our first flying lesson? The minute Neville held onto his broom, he was airborne."

"And he always transfigured his object into something, just not what we were trying to achieve," Granger reminded.

"Yeah, but, he was totally out of control," Weasley argued.

"Yes, but the potential was still there. If he'd learned to control it . . . that's what you're talking about, isn't it?" Potter asked.



So, thoughts? I have to admit that I didn't read the first 4 novels very closely -- does this make sense? Yes, I am becoming a wee bit Neville-obssessed and am toying with writing (trying to write) a Neville/somebody story. A Neville/somebody story in which Ron betrays Harry. And sets it up to look like Draco is the betrayer. Hmmm...

Not going to happen since the only HP story I have in the works is sitting on my harddrive, reproaching me.

Also, question about Draco -- there was a fanfic story (and no, I can't remember which one or who wrote it) in which Fred and George harassed a first-year Slytherin whose father was implicated in either illegal or Death Eater activities. Draco told F&G off, and said that Slytherin would stand behind him, although there may have been a touch of "Death Eaters stick together" to the scene. I
The scene did contrast to Griffindor's yearly ritual of shunning Harry, however, and didn't show F&G in a good light. Did anything like this actually happen in the first four books? If so, which one?

Just looked at the time and realized I must hie myself hence. A freelancers life is not a happy one, necessarily (for many reasons, but particularly when you have to work on a Saturday).



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[info]beledibabe
2003-08-23 02:35 pm UTC (link)
Not going to happen since the only HP story I have in the works is sitting on my harddrive, reproaching me.

The story's not the only one reproaching you. ::lifts eyebrow:: I seem to remember a promise of more?

And yeah, *love* the idea of the story where Ron betrays Harry and makes it look like Draco's work.

Heh.


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Er...
[info]hms_yowling
2003-08-23 07:44 pm UTC (link)
:: self-conscious look ::

Y'know, I keep looking for excuses but I'm both easily distracted and lazy...

Hey, though. Welcome back! And I'll try. Promise... < g >

Oh, and, if you love that story idea... *You* could write it.

(Should I start running now?)

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[info]laurelwood
2003-08-23 03:09 pm UTC (link)
The idea of Neville having untold amounts of "raw power" actually makes a ton of sense- especially in light of what was revealed in OotP and what Harry in "Nick of Time" points out about Neville's first broom ride. And his inability to use this power skillfully- lack of self-confidence? Fear? All of a sudden I'm craving a nice Neville fic that would give a plausible glimpse into the early childhood that shaped him into what we see now.

"A Neville/somebody story in which Ron betrays Harry. And sets it up to look like Draco is the betrayer."

That would be interesting. And very difficult, too, since Ron doesn't seem to have the necessary degree of deviousness for something quite that heinous.

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There's actually a good bit to work with
[info]hms_yowling
2003-08-23 07:46 pm UTC (link)
What with the glimpse we've seen of Neville's grandmother. I think we can say that she's not cruel, necessarily, but she's oblivious to her son's pain in her own grief for Frank, as well as her determination to "observe the proprieties.

I imagine Neville living in a big, dusty house where no piece of furniture has been moved for more than a century, and Frank's childhood bedroom is inviolate -- a museum.

Poor Neville is probably only allowed to visit it once a year, on his birthday. As a special sort of treat.

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Re: There's actually a good bit to work with
[info]hms_yowling
2003-08-23 09:22 pm UTC (link)
That would be "oblivious to her grandson's pain"

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[info]thereallyle
2003-08-23 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Well, Snape usually insults Neville for forgetting porcupine quills, or something like that. Is there a reason he might be trying to hide said raw power from the other Gryffindors? Otherwise, it's a good theory!p

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Not so much that Neville's trying to *hide* his power
[info]hms_yowling
2003-08-24 01:36 pm UTC (link)
But that he has it within in him and it's inaccessible due to his complete lack of confidence. If he gains confidence (and a new wand -- see below) as a result of OotP, he may turn out to be a very strong wizard.

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[info]aquila1nz
2003-08-24 11:58 am UTC (link)
For met he most telling bit of information in OotP was that Neville has been using his father's wand. Given that we've also been told he isn't like his parents (or is that fanon - I get very confused), and if wands are suited to their weilders, it could explain some of Neville's problems. Especially since when he starts really concentrating on something his father was good at, DADA, and thus working to the wand's strength, he starts to improve.

I'm sure there is special precedent for hand me down wands (and some sense to it if abilities in certain areas were inheritable), and the wand being given to Nevillewould have been totally well meant, but it can't have helped.

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When Neville broke his wand in OotP
[info]hms_yowling
2003-08-24 01:33 pm UTC (link)
I was so *happy*. I do realize he was a bit upset because his gran wasn't going to like it much -- I'm not wishing family trauma on Nveille -- but the upside would be that he could get a wand that *worked*.

We saw in the first HP novel that Ron's hand-me-down wand was equally ineffective and dangerous. I'm kind of curious to see whether, with a new wand, Neville's potion-making skills improve. It might be hard to tell, thought, because he's probably going to exhibit a little more confidence due to his DADA successes *and* being part of the group that attempted to go to Sirius's rescue. I'm also expecting him to pass his Potions OWL, which may give him more confidence there, too...

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